Their taxonomic classification is animal. Vegans don’t eat animals. That may sound arbitrary, but the their classification isn’t.
It’s OK, they’d totally all figure it out. Every single one of them would survive. Don’t even fret.
You know it.
Here’s some quotes of mine with relevant parts highlighted:
"[non-human animals] are now, by and large, dependant on humans for their survival as a result of domestication”
“domesticated species that are almost entirely reliant on us for survival”
I guess it’s more fun to read those as ‘non-human companions are so absolutely domesticated that they have no natural instincts and not a single one could survive without the direct care of a human. No exceptions. None’.
Believe it or not, I don’t know everything about every subject to do with non-human animals; I have not read a book on every subject. The whys and wherefores of non-human animal domestication is not something I am particularly interested in.
The anon obviously wasn’t genuinely interested since they just started to straw man me after I linked them to a website that is written by people who have read books on the subject and links to references. If the anon gave a shit then they should have the fucking foresight to do their own research and started Googleing or clicking on the footnotes; not come back to me to reiterate the same points.
(con’t) predators, they have fixed action patterns of behavior that no amount of domestication will fix this. For example, the whole “cats have nine lives thing” BS comes from a reflex that cats have called their “righting reflex” which is their ability to orient themselves in the air so they land on their feet. That shit doesn’t go away.
Not once did I say that domestication has removed instinct from any non-human animal; I said that they are now, by and large, dependant on humans for their survival as a result of domestication (which amounts to quite a bit more than “breed[ing]” an animal for a couple of generations”).
You done arguing against points I never made yet?
Well, I certainly didn’t expect this…
It was an off the cuff comment, but the first two sentences of the Wikipedia article on domestication pretty much sum up what I was saying.
Thanks. I thought I was being shitty lately because I thoroughly cannot be bothered with these asks, I just want them done.
I leech off the state for a living.
Oh my god! I had no idea that the state is oppressive and has a hidden (in plain sight) agenda dedicated to removing fundamental human rights!
1. One person who neglects their cat goes to show how hypocritical all vegans can be. You know, like one non-vegan who neglects their cat shows how hypocritical all non-vegans can be…
2. I advocate feeding your companion vegan food if it works for them. Every animal is individual. Why have you brought up dogs? That is entirely different to cats. I have never advocated feeding your companion an obviously neglect diet like rice milk and pasta or whatever that fuck head feed their kitten…
3.Actually the very definition of a straw man. You have no idea about my stance on human rights: you assumed my position and then attacked that imaginary position. Why are you talking about other people? I’m not accountable for what they are or not taking about 3x a day. This is a vegan blog; so I talk about vegan things (and some human stuff as it relates to veganism), funny right?
Read a book.
Domestication of species has had a massive impact. We do not have ‘friendly’ wild animals; we have completely domesticated species that are almost entirely reliant on us for survival; animals that have been selectively bred and, in some cases, biologically engineered by us to serve purposes for us.
Most animals of most species (even cats) could not survive without our help.
pugnaciouspants said: Not to mention that if you let the domesticated animlas out to fend for themselves they would have a devestating impact on the native ecology.
Yes. Thank you. Your companion is essentially an invasive species.
w/e man, i meant companion animals, still goes to show how hypocritical you vegans can be
In reference to…?
first off if you really care about animals how about meeting their basic diet needs
Link me to a place where any one vegan has ever said to neglect the dietary needs of their companion.
and whats up w/ keeping and domesticating animals then? aint that a lil bit … ya know?
It depends on how you came to care for this companion, and no; I don’t know… (?)
second, why give a shit about animal rights when it hasnt even been established that humans have a right to life or not??
Link me to the any law, national or international, that explicitly states that it is OK to kill another human being outside of warfare.
ever see the bradley manning video? civilians being shot in cold blood by us govt, so you make a statement via your diet but you dont give a shit that fellow humans are being slaughtered by the dozen? you need your priorities straightened.
Gee, thanks for the advice anon!
I always find it quite sad how most people who post this type of shit don’t even consider the lives of the animals going into the food you feed your companions; like there is no discussion to be had, just because their lives are not under your personal care/are out of your personal experience. I’m not saying either one is right, but most are not even willing to discuss it…
For the record: my cat eats a non-vegan diet.
Because people are linking to that kitten story like people link to the ‘vegan baby death’ stories as though individual instances of obvious neglect invalidate everything that is vegan.
I’m pretty sad I had to spell that out…