Adventures of An Ethical Miscreant
Thoughts on a vegan turning vegetarian but remaining vegan when convenient? (E.g. the person is extremely stressed, no vegan friends, lacking in nutrients etc.)
Anonymous

I wasn’t aware that vegetarianism helped with any of those things?

There is plenty of support, information and advice in vegan communities both online and in real life, it’s not hard to seek it out.
Most nights I cry myself to sleep because I cannot bear the thought that I am living in a non-vegan world. I actually feel my blood pressure rise when people tell me things like 'speciesism does not exist'. I know I sound pathetically dramatic but I feel I have no one to relate to over veganism + I was wondering how you deal with all the anger/upset?
Anonymous

You don’t sound pathetic, dramatic or ‘pathetically dramatic’.

The burden of knowledge is a heavy one to bear; having the destructive, cruel ignorance of that knowledge thrust in your face; having your sensibilities disregarded and your feelings ignored, trivialised or made fun of; feeling out of place and alone in most social environments all day, every day, is fucking tough.

Try to be strong and beleive in yourself, you are doing a good thing; the right thing. Remember to be happy that you are not like them. Use the pain you feel for the animals to fuel you to help them, however you can. And if you need to cry: just fucking cry, don’t hold it back. I cry a lot and I rarely try to stop myself; why should I? Crying is a genuine (and appropriate) reaction to how we treat animals (and humans, and the planet…); why should we try to curb or dull those feelings? It is lack of empathetic feeling that causes most of the shit we’re crying about. I don’t see it as I am ‘too emotional’, or whatever, more that others have lost touch with their emotions.

How do I deal with it? I rant on here, mostly. I am very lucky to have Gem to rant with in person. Do you have anyone close to you who would listen? I sometimes rant to my mum (if it comes up when we speak, I don’t call her just to shout about stuff). I can’t really realate to her about veganism (she is veggie), but she listens to me and it helps. 

If you don’t feel as though you have anyone in your ‘real’ life, come online! The Tumblr vegan community is super friendly and isn’t the only place vegans visit. A bunch of us are on Facebook, then there is Volentia, the Vegan Forum and a bunch of other places you can go an connect with other vegans.

You can always come and talk to me, too. I am without a PC right now, so getting online for more than a few minutes isn’t always easy but I will reply when I can. Sometimes it is just good to write all the shit in your head out, even if nobody sees it.

Feel free to come off anon, I don’t respond to personal messages publicly and won’t respond to any message publicly if you ask me not to.

so.... my "friends" hate me because I'm vegan. They think I'm stupid and that really sucks. I love them, but they are so rude and they make me cry so often. Have any ideas?

This fucking sucks.

Friends don’t think their friends are stupid; friends aren’t rude to their friends about something that is obviously important to them; friends don’t make friends cry, let alone often.

If you don’t think that there is any chance that they will begin to accept you for who you are, even if they don’t ‘get’ veganism: fuck them off.

do you buy stuff that is made by companies who are non-vegan? cos i don't like the thought of contributing, even in an indirect way. like, this chocolate company do really delicious vegan chocolate but they also make milk chocolate. it's just hard to get away from it :-(
Anonymous

You just have to make a difference where you can. Every penny you spend eventually leads to cruelty because that is how our society works.

For example: where do you buy any of your products? Do they only stock vegan products? Do they only employ vegans? That money you give them is going into wages to pay non-vegans to buy non-vegan food to sustain themselves to continue going to work to sell you the vegan stuff you buy. Do you have a job? Do you pay taxes? Your government isn’t vegan and they give millions to the meat industry to keep meat cheap and profitable.

You still have to be savvy, like don’t go into McDonald’s to buy a salad and avoid the larger companies and their products. I am still learning about what companies are tied to each other every day and changing what I put my money into accordingly.

Do everything you can with the information you have and never stop looking into the products you buy and the companies behind them.

Most importantly, if you see Capitalism: tell it to go fuck itself.

I know it's unvegan but it extreme cases I'd say it's ok to just take your medication even if it was animal tested/contains animal products. I need to take antidepressants and if I didn't I'd be dead. As a vegan I've converted a few people and I wouldn't be able to do that if I was dead. I'm trying harder than an omni, right? All I'm saying is in extreme cases the lifestyle can exclude medicines.
Anonymous

Animal testing exists to make money, not to advance medicine. The legal requirement that all medications be animal tested is there to protect the financial interests of vivisectors, pharmaceutical companies and their ‘stockists’; just like the meat industry bailouts that come from your tax money.

At the very least, make sure that your medication is vegan: pills usually have lactose in the film coating, and capsules are usually made from gelatin, but there are alternatives.

For the person who asked about being vegan with cystic fibrosis: if you are pancreas insufficient it's physically impossible: the enzymes you take are made from pig enzymes and without them you will die from malabsorption
Anonymous

Again, something I know nothing about but a quick Google search revealed this.

Hi there, I was wondering if you had any info on being vegan with cystic fibrosis?
Anonymous

This is not something I knew anything about (and I still don’t, really). But, I did some reading when I got this message and found a whole host conflicting information; a majority of which says that it is not advised, or not possible.

What is interesting about the information I read is that the sources that were saying that it is not possible were (obviously) non-vegan. The sources that went into detail about how it is possible and gave examples were vegan. I did see a few medical sources saying it was possible with intense monitoring and ‘expert help’. I do not have a lot of faith in the established medical community, and don’t take anything I hear from them as fact without looking for counter-information first.

This fits the pattern whenever there is a contested issue in relation to one’s ability to go vegan: most people, through lack of knowledge or effort, don’t even consider how veganism is possible; for any ailment, financial/living situation, even able-bodied etc…

With that in mind: I would usually take the vegan sources as more credible than the non-vegan. There will be more non-vegan sources but the sources from vegans who are living it, I think, count for more.

For the sources mentioned above, you will have to consult Google and have a read around. There are far too many to links, and I am not entirely sure which links would yield the most relative information for you. I have, however, linked some basic information below for you to peruse.

What little I read said that CF sufferers need to consume high calorie, high fat foods and keep an aye on vitamins A, D, E and K and things like calcium, iron, sodium chloride and zinc. Now, these things exist in abundance in non-animal sources. Medical issues usually don’t require you to consume specific foodstuffs, just specific nutrients; and I have never seen how it would make sense for humans to consume ‘food’ that we’re not designed to (food that makes healthy people sick) to remedy an ailment.

I hope this helps.

So I'm a vegetarian right now, struggling to go vegan. I'm on a diet right now that's required me to cut out all grains and sugar, so I'm feeling rather limited. The one thing I'm having trouble cutting out of my diet completely is eggs, namely because at this point, it's one of the few foods left that sate me. Suggestions for replacement foods? (if any?)
Anonymous

Oh, P.S. || I don’t do soy either, so no scrambled tofu for me or anything like that. sldkfjlskfj ):                        

Sorry for the delay. This is not something I know all that much about.

I asked a friend who knows a little more about this stuff than I do, who is also gluten-free. She said that she is happy to help. She will need a little more information than this, though, such as what type of sugar: processed, fruit sugar, both?

I will say, though, that limitations on what food you can/will eat are no reason to consume cruel products. I, myself, am severely limited with what I can eat; but there is always a way around it. Just ask around and Google.

Hi. My most recent post is about the moral dilemma of where to adopt animals as I am dealing with the same issue right now concerning bunnies- namely should I adopt one from the spca or should I buy bunnies that are advertised as meat rabbits on a rabbit meat farm. As gross as it is to support that in any way by giving those jerks money, I would be saving bunnies that would otherwise have no chance. I would love your opinion as I really like your blog and respect what you have to say.

This is a truly horrible question. I didn’t even think about rabbits being farmed for meat (but I am not surprised…).

Like I quoted before: “Whoever saves one life, saves the entire world”, and the welfare of the individual cannot be played off against the welfare of the many or even of any other individual (but how do you choose?). But, as a counter point to that; this person pointed out that adopting from a no-kill shelter not only gives an animal a home but it gives another animal a chance by making space at a shelter.

Again, followers: what do you think?

Thank you for the compliment :).

You're absolutely right. I DON'T want to go to a breeder, and I'm sort of ashamed I almost let her talk me into it. What about the claim that dogs have shorter digestive tracts, similar to carnivores, and therefore cannot process heavily plant-based diets? How can I refute this? I tried looking for information, but everything I came up with suggested that this is true, and that dogs are better off being fed meat - maybe even raw meat.
Anonymous

Just skim read this and this, they seem to have a good amount of information.

My best friend and I are planning on living together in the coming year, and we're talking about getting a dog. The only problem is, we are totally at odds over what to do. I want a smallish dog, and she hates them, only likes big. We finally settled on a Shiba Inu being an acceptable breed for both of us. But then she brought up that they're hard to find in shelters, and even if we do, the ones in shelters are often abused/sick, which is very costly for two broke students. She wants to buy -c-
Anonymous

from a reputed breeder, that only breeds once or twice a year, in order to get a dog we won’t have to pour money into for medical bills, and who will be well-socialized. And then there’s the matter of its food. Their digestion tracts just aren’t good for a plant-dominated diet (it’s shorter, like carnivores). The idea of breeding an animal on purpose that will eat other animals greatly disturbs me. Am I wrong? Is there a point that she has that I’m not seeing? What would you do?

Never buy from any breeder or a ‘pet’ store. Ever. Under no circumstances. If you don’t feel you are in a position to rescue then do not get a dog.

Dogs in shelters are of all different shapes and sizes, with varying levels of health. I would be very surprised if you could not find the dog for you at a shelter.

Talk to the people at the shelter, explain your situation to them. It is no good for the dog to be given a home where their carer cannot afford to care for them properly when things get tough. It is no good for the dog to go back to the shelter when things don’t work out. I don’t know if this is available in all shelters, but a shelter my family got one of our dogs from in the past, they allowed a supervised ‘play time’ with any dog you were interested in to make sure that you ‘clicked’.

I implore you to adopt on a needs basis instead of worrying about what size the dog is or what they look like. Of course, you need to stay within your means for the above reasons; you need to make sure that you are able to give a dog a long term home. Think, first and foremost, about the dog’s welfare instead of trivial superficial matters.

There are also plenty of charities and shelters that require regular donations to help keep the shelter animals that can, for whatever reason, no longer be re-homed. Plenty of these charities will send you updates about the animal you are sponsoring. This is something that my mum always did on my behalf growing up, and is something I continue to do.

As far as I know, dogs can survive perfectly happily on a vegan diet. The thing about commercial ‘pet’ food is that it is just slaughterhouse run-off, roadkill and other shit ground up, it has very little nutritional value. For this reason, manufacturers have to pump it full of the stuff your dog actually needs to survive. Your dog doesn’t give a shit what he is eating, so long as it fills him up and keeps him healthy (put simply); it really doesn’t matter if it’s ground up roadkill or ground up vegetables to him. Vegan dog food is designed to keep your dog healthy and isn’t ground up carcass, so everyone wins!

Hey, do you know of any other guides for people looking to go vegan but don't know where to start? The one you have under your /advice tab (veganfreak) no longer works.
Anonymous

Hey, I’ve updated the link to an Amazon page where you can purchase the book (it is Amazon.co.uk, though). 

You can also try here, here and here, or just have a Google round for guides. There is plenty of info out there on different sites covering different aspects of veganism.

I'm having a small problem that I don't want flack for, which is why I'm anon. But, basically, my partner is a pescatarian. When we're at home, he eats what I make, which is vegan, but when left to his own devices, he eats fish, dairy, and eggs. He knows I'm an ethical vegan, but 1- says he's "close enough" because he eats vegan at home, and 2- is from the New England fish culture, so says he will never give up fish. We're in a serious relationship, but his lack of morals here bother me. Advice?
Anonymous

Sorry it’s taken me so long to answer this.

Only you know how much you can take from him.

I can understand him wanting to ‘stay true’ to his roots or whatever, but when his roots involve extensive overfishing, destruction of environments, decimation of species and the genocide of billions; I would ask him why he wants to stick with that by furthering the destruction.

You know that there is no such thing as ‘close enough’, make sure he knows it.

There are no exceptions, only double-standards.

For the person working in a school wondering what to say about veganism: I am teaching a y5/6 class and in the past few weeks have covered animal abuse (pets) and battery hens (using RSPCA resources) with them for persuasive writing. They know I'm vegan and ask me about it, and I am completely honest with them. I just make sure I adapt my language to suit their age. I don't want to give them nightmares, but I do want to encourage them to question what they are eating.

Excellent. Thanks very much for the input, I hope they see this as they are not on Tumblr (if I recall correctly).

Ah, thanks for answering :) I'm not a fan of anon messaging, but I don't have a tumblr! I have no doubt that these children can form valid opinions based on ethics-we already did a lesson on fair trade and they definitely formed some opinions about that (with no parents complaining about suddenly having tiny little anarchists for children). I probably just need to work out an honest (but not-too-graphic) answer, then I can just tell them I don't eat anything that came from an animal. Thanks :)
Anonymous

Well, if you don’t have a Tumblr then you have no choice! So, it’s all good :). I don’t mind people being anon, I just think it is weak when people go on anon to insult me.

Just to clarify (and I don’t think you thought this), but: I didn’t mean that you, specifically, don’t give children enough credit to form opinions. So, sorry if that’s how it came across. 

If they have already been exposed to how important it is to treat humans less fortunate than themselves with ethical consideration and fairness, then it’s not much of a leap to extend that to non-humans. Children aren’t going to have as much of a barrier built up about how non-human animals are here purely for us, so you could be onto a winner ;).

I’m sure you’ll be fine with it all, let me know how it all turns out :).